Re: “Black Sheep White Cop: A true-life memoir of crime & corruption

You are correct Tonya Toney. Prior to that I was with SCMPD for 12 years,to include while Kevin Grogan was there. I did not sling any mud. My questions are based in facts that you can easily check if you are so inclined. I posted what I typed to Kevin and what he typed in return so someone like yourself could see I am not hiding my thoughts from Kevin. He knows exactly who I am, where I worked then and now. Forgive me if I do not feel the need to list a resume and references to critique a published book. You and every reader of the book is entitled to your opinion. I simply expressed my thoughts and asked for answers to questions. I did not ask Kevin to place my name in the dedication of this book, and although there are things I can agree with, there are others I will not. That said, for people who never worked at SCMPD during this timeframe and those that do not know me either personally or professionally (and forgive me if I do not recognize your name and I apologize for my lack of memory if I should) it was in my personal interest to publicly express myself. By doing so my hope was to stop people's assumptions that my name in a dedication implies blind support for the content of the book. Simply put Tonya Toney, had I not been dragged into a public publication my criticisms would have remained private as they had for years.

Posted by Alan Sammons on 06/27/2017 at 11:39 PM

Re: “Black Sheep White Cop: A true-life memoir of crime & corruption

While we are being so transparent Mr Sammons I believe that it is only fair to let the readers know that you currently work for the Chatham County DAs office

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Posted by TonyaToney on 06/27/2017 at 9:15 PM

Re: “Black Sheep White Cop: A true-life memoir of crime & corruption

I would characterize the book as highly opinionated and misleading in some areas. If you read it you get his take and opinion. For many who worked at SCMPD....we think differently. Below is what I had to say to the author and his reply, which can be found on the FaceBook page for the book.

"You should not honor men more than the truth." Plato

Kevin,
You mentioned me in your dedication as a man who does not know the excuse of "Not my job" or "That is all I can do." Perhaps that is true. You reference the "man in the arena" portion of a speech delivered by T. Roosevelt. Well I have stood in the ring, tasted the dirt and lost more of myself than most will ever know. Success has found me at times but not as often as failures. I think Roosevelt would allow me to be the critic.

I have given much thought to the theories and positions you take in your book. I have to say I am troubled by some things I read. Since you pulled my name into the public arena I feel compelled to offer my opinion. I feel the reader may be misled, and this is for those who might need more information to consider before making judgements.

(For those who do not know this law)
O.C.G.A. 16-10-20, False Statements and Writings
"A person who knowingly and willfully falsifies, conceals, or covers up by any trick, scheme, or device a material fact; makes a false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation; or makes or uses any false writing or document, knowing the same to contain any false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or entry, in any matter within the jurisdiction of any department or agency of state government or of the government of any county, city, or other political subdivision of this state shall, upon conviction thereof, be punished by a fine of not more than $1,000.00 or by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than five years, or both."

Sgt Larry, whom you hold in high regard, investigated your actions as a police officer (and yes while employed with SCMPD you are at all times a cop and a representative of the department) operating a police vehicle while intoxicated on July 17, 2014 and found you in violation of two SCMPD policies: Vehicle Operations and Oath of Office. That was for driving while under the influence of alcohol and the other for providing an untruthful statement. The untruthfulness was over a material fact, one that took some effort for the investigator to find (meaning he didn't just take your word-he went out to verify your word and found evidence in contradiction).

Your statement was protected under "Garrity" (for the reader: immunity from use in criminal proceedings) unless you say something that is substantially not true. You complained you only had a month on administrative leave when others got up to a year before disciplinary action, but the department did not make you resign or terminate you at that point. You resigned the moment Sgt Larry wanted to confront the "misconstrued" information. The department ultimately assigned termination as your administrative punishment and noted your resignation in lieu of termination. Why resign? If you told it all, no hesitation, knowing you would be fired for the DUI anyway, why not make further statements to Sgt Larry? If there was a misunderstanding why not clear it up?

The book makes no mention of Sgt Larry's findings, his testimony at trial or the disciplinary action of the department. Instead you attack the DA, the ADA's, the citizens (grand jury members) and take a shot at a Superior Court Judge.

I'll agree, five years earlier, under Lovett and that political climate, you most likely would never have been charged. The information might not have been brought to the attention of the DA's office. At worst you would have been fired. It was hard to tell back then. Most of us could never understand why some officers were disciplined and others weren't, but I guess that was just the "politics" of the former chief. Unfortunately for you, your misfortune came as the Lovett empire crumbled. Some of his skeletons escaped the closet. Matters involving officers were looked at more closely by the new Internal Affairs and perhaps that information was shared, reluctantly maybe, but shared nonetheless. Thus setting the new standard. You argue you were prosecuted because you were white and up until that time only former black SCMPD officers had been prosecuted. Does that mean your offense should have been ignored? Does that mean you are better than the other officers who did face and still face prosecution?

The citizens who sat on the Grand Jury at the time of your indictment did not indict a "ham sandwich." They heard probable cause and voted based on their intellect. There is nothing sinister or unfair about the process of indictment in The State of Georgia and I am willing to go out on a limb and say the procedure will be similar in all 50 States.

Should the charge of false statements against you had been such that no reasonable person could have found you guilty, then your defense counsel would have asked for and convinced the presiding judge that a directed verdict of not guilty on the charge was necessary as a matter of law. There must have been more than just ham in the sandwich because that did not occur.

You complained the DA refused to prosecute a white gang for attacking a white police officer (off duty and not in uniform- don't want anyone to think he was attacked in uniform) and insinuate there is some racial motivation or reason. What you fail to tell the reader is you had the case for over 12 months. You failed to make an arrest. You never completed your report until literally just prior to your resignation. You could have at any time sought a warrant and charged the perpetrator. This was our job. This was your job as the lead investigator- Investigate- If crime established charge appropriately- When arrests made submit ALL evidence and documents to DA's Office for prosecution. The DA has discretion only over prosecution of the case, not your ability to arrest. I don't understand what prevented you from arresting someone. Perhaps the more appropriate criticism for the failure of an arrest in this case should be directed towards SCMPD.

You praised a number of police officers and one former chief but bash a handful of prosecutors in the book. The reader should know not one of the prosecutors has ever been fired from their position or convicted of a crime while holding a position of public trust. Some of the cops you mention....4 were fired and found guilty of Federal Crimes. One if not two more were fired from SCMPD as well. Particularly that sergeant you seem so fond of who all too often was the focus of a domestic violence incident with even a couple of them actually reported to police. Your readers probably will not do this, but I encourage them to research the names themselves and make their own decisions on how much praise should be given to all the men in that unit. Without a doubt there were some very good men and officers that served on the unit. Also there is no doubt that proactive police work, such as done by EXPO, certainly has an effect on the crime statistics. Unfortunately it was the bad eggs and the clouds some members of EXPO carried with them at times that probably led to a lot of the dislike expressed by some in the police department towards EXPO while it was in existence.

You are a good man Kevin. You were a good cop. I absolutely understand the personal troubles that led to your terrible decisions. YOU made the choices that led to your tribulations. But for your choices, none of this would have occurred and if there is blame for all that occurred after the wreck I would look no further than yourself. I for some reason expected a little humbleness from you after this experience because I don't see anything to be proud and boastful about. You had your trial, "stood before the mast" and the jury spoke. You escaped the serious charge and and no matter how anyone feels about the outcome, the entire process worked as it should.

You can dedicate this work in my name and others if you wish, but in no way do I support the glorification of some of the officers you named who have dishonored the badge and tarnished not only their names but the reputation of SCMPD. I do not support the various inferences you create through your portrayal of facts and information related to some of the investigations you reference. I do not support your position that everything you told Internal Affairs was truthful, and if I had been in Sgt Larry's position I would have found you to have been untruthful as well. After all you gave no other reason or way for your "misconstrued" statement to be viewed in relation to the facts discovered.

Perhaps I don't like hearing "not my job" and perhaps I don't know how to think "there is nothing else I can do." But the phrase I try to hold myself to the most is very simple. It brings all responsibility back to the one who speaks it. It forces self reflection..."No excuse sir."

For anyone who reads this, most of what I write here can be verified with documentation if you are willing to do the work. Otherwise think what you will about some of the subject-matter in the book.


Author's reply:

Alan, you too are a good man and there is no question you have been in the arena. I appreciate your criticism and have always admired your candor. Im troubled by a few of your takes on what I have written but I have always respected your ability to see the big picture. My accounts of the individuals in this book are based on my experience with them. I think glorify may be a strong word. As for my case and the interview, my opinion is well documented and I stand by it. For something to be criminal there has to be intent, I know you understand that all too well. The statute you quoted begins with knowingly and willfully. As far as making a second statement, I think my thinking is explained there as well and I hope you understand that was a time in my life where I was dealing with several issues. I appreciate your honesty as always. I also stand by my dedication because I have always admired your skill and tenacity. There is no one on this Earth who knows where the responsibility for my actions lays better than I. If you don't see the agenda that underlies the entire prosecution then, as we have so many times before, we can agree to disagree. You have known me long enough also to understand that I own the mistakes I have made and make no excuse but I will not ever take responsibility for something I didn't do.

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Posted by Alan Sammons on 06/27/2017 at 8:15 PM

Re: “Black Sheep White Cop: A true-life memoir of crime & corruption

That was an awful joke, but anyhoo....Yeah no secret whatsoever that our former Mayor and police chief were total crooks (hints why Slick Willie is in prison) I'm sure something else will surface about the former Mayor and her gang of crooks. Correct me if i'm wrong but didn't that weirdo Tony Thomas say something to City Council and the Mayor during his "censorship" or whatever they called it about the political corruption? Regardless already ordered this off amazon and looking foward to reading. Oh and D.A. Heap....what a joke. Well done again Jim.

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Posted by Ball of Confusion on 06/27/2017 at 3:14 PM

Re: “Does the Rothschild family control every central bank in the world?

Rothschild empire create an army of so called intellectual. The author is foot Soldier of that army. Neither he understands mechanism of working of central bank nor the nexus of operation among elite. He tried to confuse reader by hiding mechanism of rising of finance capital and arguing against some superficial talk. What is important is to understand is at perception level we can get only half truth because perception is complex of fact, feeling, emotions and, therefore always biased. Truth always lied at logical level which revealed through study of mechanism. The author talk only of perception and no where touch the logical mechanism of rise of finance capital. This is what all apologist do.

Posted by Arun on 06/27/2017 at 9:41 AM

Re: “Editor's Note: Tony Thomas takes City Council with him to rock bottom

COMMUNISM
BACKGROUND OF REVOLUTIONIONARY MUD SLAPPERS

Beginning in 1812 floods and thousands of immigrants from eastern Europe swamped New York City via Ellis Island. Originally, their ancestors, progenitors, came out of Asia settling south of the Black Sea. After hundreds of years as no-mads in the Ukraine these roaming hoards slowly invaded what is now known as Russia. After the failing revolution in Russia of 1792, wealthy settlers and their allied revolutionaries fled to New York from eastern Europe. This was better than being jailed or hanged. All of these immigrants settled in the eastern end of New York City. Here a major ghetto was formed. In fact, liberal socialism under the mental subversion of Ferdinand Lassale, founder of communism, took root here. Karl Marx denounced Lassale.


communism was developed in New York City and went into Russia. Several major bankers gave Leon Trotsky money. Trotsky and his revolutionaries were sent into Russia. And now, This world menace houses its universal scheme of a one world devised proletarian movement right here as its agents, as cells, or moles, completely dominate all national news media. In an alliance with the various connected important agencies of national security and intelligence watchdogs, our republic has actually been overthrown. The Bolshevism of America is at a fast age.. It is now or never, ready for the satanic rule of global Bolshevism. There is a question as to the origin of the people known as Khazars. This is a joke being palmed off on stupid people. Napoleon in his then known war through the eastern world was a tool in the hands of financiers. He established the first Synagogue in south east Arabia, It does not matter as to what social structure people are drawn from, for this has no bearing on a global movement using religion as a means to implant a well developed an anti-social structure thousands of years in the past ! Lets get it straightGentile and Jewish bankers have created a monstrous structure called investments, and of which a majority of gangsters have control over the Stock exchange. These illicit investors would marry the devil to make a fast buck. If we are going to attack a people in flawlessly, putting them in hand baskets, then take a look at the gentile bastards that borrow their money to do dirty things to make a fast buck. The dirtiest bastards are those who borrow Jewish or gentile moneys to commit criminal acts in the commercial industries, and creating ghettos through slum mastering, desire to blame money loaners, because they failed in some corrupt transaction, and hate to repay interest.

Our Lord speaks of the spirit of iniquity. The battle here is between Jacobs Israel and Esau of whom God hates. Joseph Stalin is Bolshevism. He sleeps in his grave but hundreds of tax-free man-made religions preaches Bolshevism while Beezlebub and his band of devils lead a once free nation right down to the very depths of hell !

Posted by Bertharina Rina on 06/26/2017 at 11:32 PM

Re: “Editor's Note: Tony Thomas takes City Council with him to rock bottom

BULL DYKES-CROSS DRESSERS
( Marketable mutates )
CROSS DRESSERS SHOULD RULE
America is a makeup of various human combinations of Homo Sapiens. We know that humanity varies in political and social behavior in accordance with well ingrained spiritual and patterns of shape-shifting ingrained with survival instincts. Selected dress & thinking is generally correlated along with individual perceptions of repressed tribal inclinations. In concert, the personality coins its political accountability, as wants and needs to keep one organism afloat, as abiding time in waiting to letting it all hang out under pseudo democracy. This is the herd instinct. The elite ruling class is well versed in cattle driving. Each herd is to be swallowed up through sociology/pathological warfare designed as governmental paternity. Once the selected mobs are well-nourished with bread and circuses, bellies bloating, developed instinctual drive, with a gluttonous mode of existence, liberalism becomes a drive in elevating pseudo democracy as the national cradle of dumpster diving into a halo of well lain Utopian alien Marxianized political philosophy. An upside turned down Republic becomes a national trough of human degradation.

But behold and be low, society is propelled directly into a collective Freudian concoction of mental disturbance, The Personality Suppression Complex Syndrome. According to Dr. Sigmund Freud, progressive mental disturbances are closely allied with a so-called womb flotation, of which has been technically loosed from its natural position of development. Within womankind, a subdued depression and anxiety. The individual alter ego comes into conflict with suppressed erotic desires formulating a neurosis. Feeling a rejection of male attendance will not offer improvement as a wife or lover. One becomes bottomed out.

Howbeit that mother nature has defrauded an uncanny psycho pathological immature ingrate, as this illusion is manifested through self-induced narcissism, charismatic leadership levels its self right into Freuds. Personality Suppression Gravitational Syndrome. Twisted personalities is the Woman-man transposition.
Our national society must be appeased emotionally, materially, and nourished paternally. As pseudo democrats, our melting-pot must become a catch-all of bull dykes, Fags, voters, voyeurs, and rest-room runners. Since the toilet is a master piece of an artful deification of well-wishers, it must remain as a sideline for future generations for geological explorations. In essence: cross-dressing is the going thing. We need them in all levels of national government; and tax payers should furnish girdles.

Posted by Bertharina Rina on 06/26/2017 at 9:29 PM

Re: “Does the Rothschild family control every central bank in the world?

An article all too easily missing the simple fact that sitting on that amount of wealth and indeed owning the very monetary mechanism itself with the ability to create money at will is proof enough that the bigots who control 80% of the worlds resources are neither anti war or anti slavery. Control over the value of currency pending how they sell those resources is key and doing nothing with such a vast amount of the worlds wealth suggests these people do not care about their fellow man. Forget central bank ownership. Who controls the digital mechanism itself ?? Who has claimed ownership of the majority of the worlds resources?

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Posted by Steve Garry on 06/26/2017 at 12:14 PM

Re: “Editor's Note: Tony Thomas takes City Council with him to rock bottom

HORSEWHIPPING AMERICA
( Guests of Uncle Sam )


Motherly love towards a newborn infant is pure and holy, in giving thanks to our creator: as a new born soul enters the earthly atmosphere. However, in adulthood the once babe-in arms walks into a little understood world as a blind bat. From the breast of motherly love, and childhood attentiveness, the band is broken. With hat in hand, such personalities must seek shelter and bread. With no talent for productive inclination, the army came to the rescue. Four years of military indoctrination, three-meals a day, roof over his head, with a check and a chick; every month is unbelievable. Surviving off the taxpayers hide, while lounging around the post exchange, was a genuine paradise; an alcoholic was in the making. After missing roll-call successively, and failing the dress-code, a psychiatrist gave this deadbeat, Hammerhead, an option
To pick up a section eight discharge or wind up to the brigg. We will coin this jerk as a meathead.

Hamma persued extra food through dumpster-diving. He became friends with a disbarred shyster who stole child-relief funds from city charities.This lawyer, too, was evicted from the military for stealing food from a chow-hall, to feed his family of seven. Here we have two loose cannons, at the same social bearings, prowling the streets at day time, and sleeping in alleyways at night. Still, the military GI Bill of Rights was a final hope from taxpayers, of whom lived and worked for a decent life, being plundered of their hard-earned cash. We will name the shyster as Slick. As a sideline, Both Slick & Hammer took a GI Bill of Rights crash-course in law. It was now Slick and Hammer law firm. Life took on a new path.

Lingering hunger was avoided, as mutual souls, pick-pocketed the poor and helpless. Time was passed via begging, drunkenness, panhandling, alley-trolling, and fondling garbage containers. Slick would skin his clients from head to toe, while Hamma reversed the act of robbery, from toe to head. This lousey sort of legal gangsterism is a bi-product in the name of the National Lawyers Guild operates every manner of plundering our national society. These shysters never miss an opportunity in milking hopeless people down, for they say, shoot low fellow shyster, for some jerks may be riding shetland ponies. Slick and Hammerhead edged their way into both previously bought and paid for political parties. One party is a whore and the other a prostitute. Immediately, Slick and Hammer were political whores nesting in between a two-party confederation of inhouse fornication, as masters of deception, in the hands of Beelzebub and his family of devils. Indeed; a specialised confederation of professionally designed dirty bastards, in selling America short. From the gutter of whence such professional rabble be came elevated as parasites.

America has an enemy within. The prevailing threat against our republic is not of stone and shield, such as the federal reserve, the treasury, supreme court, presidency, Council on Foreign Relations, Pentagon, Wall Street, CIA, NATO, IRS, FBI, terrorists or state Dept. All of these state mechanisms are in place as pre-planned elite global aristocracy. National ruling bourgeois, slave masters of criminality, are pawns in the wealthy is a front for Zionism. For sure, the middle-class is created as an influential screen, and an opponent of all lower-class productive citizens as thum-suckers. From this anti-social class of paranoids and professional parasitism is the federal reserve, as allied with sixty global reserve outlets. The actual enemies of all gentile Homo Sapiens is a race of devils in the flesh having no ties to material industries. Their whole global system is held in check through subservient miscreants such as the Slick and Hammerheads double think-alikes, within a vast watering hole in line with such thum-sucking leeches! .

He actually hated the militarys social conservativism and compliance with organized confusion. Too, his three-sisters and two brothers were still at home in Skidmore, Ga. His father was a terminally disabled alcoholic, in holding down a low-paying deputy sheriffs job. Hamma ended up in
in Gluttersville, Ga. Hamma survived through dumpster-diving. He became friends with a disbarred shyster who stole child-relief funds from city charities.This lawyer, too, was evicted from the military for stealing food from a chow-hall to feed his family of seven. Here we have two loose cannons at the same social bearings prowling the streets at day time and sleeping in alleyways at night. Still, the military GI Bill of Rights was a final hope from taxpayers; of whom lived and worked for a decent life, being plundered of their hard-earned cash. We will name the shyster as Slick. Both took a crash-course in law. It was now ( Slick and Hammer law firm.

The hunger avoided, as mutual souls, pick-pocketed the poor and helpless. Time was passed begging, drunkenness, panhandling, alley-trolling, and fondling garbage containers. Slick would skin his victims from head to toe, while Hamma reversed the act of robbery, from toe to head. This sort of legal gangsterism is a by-product in the name of the National Lawyers Guild operates every manner of plundering our national society. These shysters never miss an opportunity in milking hopeless people down, for they say, shoot low fellow shyster, for some jerks may be riding shetland ponies. Slick and Hammerhead edged their way into both previously bought and paid for political parties. One party is a whore and the other a prostitute. Immediately, Slick and Hammer were political whores nesting in between a two-party confederation of in-house fornication; as masters of deception, in the hands of Beelzebub and his family of devils. Indeed, a specialised confederation of professionally designed dirty bastards, in selling America short. From whence they came is assured.

All of these state mechanisms are in place as pre-planned elite global aristocracy. National ruling bourgeois, slave masters of criminality, are pawns in the wealthy is a front for Zionism. For sure, the middle-class is created as an influential screen, and an opponent of all lower-class productive citizens. From this anti-social class of paranoids and professional parasitism is the federal reserve as allied with sixty global reserve outlets. The actual enemies of all gentile Homo Sapiens is a race of devils in the flesh having no ties to material industries. Their whole global system is held in check through subservient miscreants such as the Slick and Hammerhead think-alikes, a vast watering hole in line with such infidels controlling the District of Columbia, in corralling national political whoredom, with its ties to pseudo-religious conflagrations feeding from the trough of the U.S Reserve. In noting that America is nothing more than an island flotilla, as an appendage to to the City of London House banking, that rests its monetary tentacles into the worlds fluid money supply, in controlling the USA. An alien political inquisition has its awaiting official, civil eccleasiacal immunity input via intellectual hmbug to politically garrot any positive individual cuddling conservative options, in saving this Republic.
Satanic driven mobs opting for democracy; for free speech and liberty, has been nailed down, screwed down and rocketed off into infinity. Millions of Hammaheads & Slicks has decreed this mental slavery through official parasitism.

Posted by Bertharina Rina on 06/25/2017 at 7:06 PM

Re: “Editor's Note: Tony Thomas takes City Council with him to rock bottom

MENTAL SLAVERY TODAY
( Political harlotry )

Wolfgang Nordmeyer
The U.S. - and the colonies from which it sprang - has always been sexist, racist, capitalist pig, evil. 60 million Natives MURDERED in order to steal their land. Slavery existed for a century (including colonial times) when it could have been wiped out sooner. Those supposedly opposed to slavery let it continue for their own good - certainly not for the good of the slaves. The U.S. is really owned by capitalist pigs who perform hideous acts such as described by hogorina above. Voting is a joke - you get to pick which political prostitute of the capitalistic pigs you want - as if it made any difference. I was named after the famous composer Mozart, but I won't claim for a second that I have his genius musical skills. Nevertheless, I did compose a new national anthem. P.s Too expletive--Hog
PARAPHRASED: the National Educational Association has been shut down. The very best act would be to nail down NATO, and wipe out the United Nations Organization. Further, close the hatch cover over The Council on Foreign Relations, as being wire-pulled through international finance. Little is it known that the City/county Management System is a third-party upcoming ruling order
meticulously spreading across America. This is the blind that ( tax payers ) are being milked.

What it amounts to; is that a blind boar hog can find an acorn in the dark. What is happening to above intelligent home owners in allowing property to be stolen through over taxation ? Tax payers should take the bull by its tail, and to look the situation, square into the face. It will be the same old case, one ass facing another. Borned loosers nihilistically grouped.

Posted by Bertharina Rina on 06/24/2017 at 11:46 PM

Re: “Editor's Note: Lessons from The Florence’s failure

Really looking forward to someone doing a more neighborhood friendly concept in that space, seemed a little weird to have fine dining in a student housing development That being said, always had a great experience at the Florence, had an Italian uncle come visit and he still talks about what great night he had there. It's a cool space, that bar upstairs has a lot of potential

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Posted by Brian Young on 06/23/2017 at 11:58 PM

Re: “Editor's Note: Lessons from The Florence’s failure

Sorry to hear that some tourists act like they are customers, unless you just mean over the top served. I agree about the Atlantic. I don't agree that Savannah can't compete with the big boys. I've been to Charleston a couple times, but keep coming back to Savannah, almost 20 times now, and I grew up just north of NYC. Savannah can support high price points if there is value. My take after watching Hugh on TV is that he was a little too big for his britches and didn't measure up.

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Posted by Deneen on 06/23/2017 at 2:48 PM

Re: “Polk’s On the Go: ‘From our store to your door’

I usually order the smaller box from Polk's every other week. I've always gotten high quality produce. Polk's has the best tomatoes-I always get those! And the last 2 boxes I ordered a watermelon as an add-on and found them to be the sweetest I have ever eaten! The convenience, the locally-sourced produce at the highest quality and the selection are what makes this service as wonderful as going to a farmers market.

Posted by Joy on 06/23/2017 at 11:23 AM

Re: “Editor's Note: Tony Thomas takes City Council with him to rock bottom

MAD HOUSE
( Fin de Sicle )
Road Runners
TOURIST ARE UNIVERSAL TRAMPS

The late Oliver Wendell Holmes of the Supreme Court:" Tourist are nothing less than universal tramps".
Sure, Mister Holmes, was not referring to well behaved people, of whom love to enjoy life in visiting historical cities. When a child, this city had visitors that were retained in polite mannerisms and dress---all respective in public appearance.
Times have changed! All cities across America are trying to recapture monies idly spent on social engineering proclivities.. The gangs in control of all cities have created the ancient Roman Circus festivities, in order to lull out of hand mobs back into their natural hunting grounds, of keeping the show on the road.
Every key city is hawking for monetary gain to keep their gang in office. None of them even think of preserving native cultures. When a city gives open arms to any and all so-called gatherings to meet
and have a free for all ball, here comes drunks, women chasers, drugs pushers, side walk bandits and professional hawkers, with their stolen wares. Drunks take over some elevated stream that usually is just a another swamp. At times a river actually exists. Whatever exists, alcohol is the main drawing card.
And, who gets all the police protection, not local tax paying home owners, but hundreds of drunks and public rabble rousers! This is nothing but shame on all public officials, in any city or state that openly yields to roving mobs, seeking a nice tourist trap, in order to let it all hang out. Here we have the good, bad, and the ugly all grouped together..
Thank goodness for the respectful tourist that stays out of what is classed as a tourist trap. Holmes was speaking of the sorry trash falsely classed as chasing some historical site. It would do well for the many to dress properly on the streets. Many have looked as though they represented some national garbage collector's union. Still. small mobs stroll late at night-- Pills, whiskey, women and suds are sought.

It isn't known who gets the bribes in order to allow drunken parties to actually control all bay areas in the tourist industry. In years to come hundreds of these good timers will be seeking food and housing having not saved for a rainy day. Today, across America these small once touring mobs make up one magnificent mob, with their hearts set upon a federal hand out. Political whores in office are allied in twisting this class of a mob's twisted thinking that the ( GOVERNMENT ) owes them free room and board.
Turn on any television and watch socializing commentators and half-witted nincompoops, fraudulently hammering into the same former tourist trap litigants, that the (GOVERNMENT ) should give them free biscuits so that the gutters running with milk and honey could be sopped, as an opposition in staying put
while propped in front of TV's. The Roman Circus must move along, to quell the mob's desire, for national socialism. Here the well heeled pro-commie political whore snakes his way into mob mentality. For this parasitic monstrosity of low intelligence hangs his will power on the limbs of professional boot licking!

Posted by Bertharina Rina on 06/23/2017 at 12:21 AM

Re: “Beware of false choices about tourism vs. livability

As a visitor to Savannah every year for the last thirteen or fourteen years I view the largest issue that needs to be tackled is CRIME. The tourists and the SCAD students are fair game for crime element of the city. I see the kids living and walking in areas that "seem" very suspect. This winter I heard stories of robberies and even murders that made us think twice about walking the Downtown Historic District at night. Although we plan to purchase a house and move to Downtown Savannah I am now having second thoughts about investing a substantial sum in an area that may loose its value because the city hasn't been willing or able to deal with the everyday mounting crime problems. Therefore the issues of tourism and lack of residential housing maybe handled buy the thug packing a gun. Wake up and deal with the overshadowing issues of poverty.

Steve Kahn

Posted by Steve Kahn on 06/22/2017 at 11:25 PM

Re: “Editor's Note: Lessons from The Florence’s failure

I've dined at The Florence and found the service less than acceptable. I've dined at The Atlantic and found the service impeccable, courteous, and proactive to meet my dietary desires. The attention to detail at The Atlantic impressed me as well as the quality of the culinary delights. Having eaten at Hugh Acheson's superior dining at "5 & 10" in Athens, I was disappointed in The Florence as I expected a more positive dining experience. I had hoped The Florence would overcome the growing pains and succeed. By all indications The Atlantic is fulfilling that void of an exceptional quality dining experience.

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Posted by Earth2andy on 06/22/2017 at 12:32 PM

Re: “Editor's Note: Lessons from The Florence’s failure

This town (thinking itself a city) doesn't breed a service culture, it breeds/attracts people that feel THEY should BE served. They don't live here, or not year round at any rate. The year round folks who are the blood that pumps this town (and work low paying service jobs) are not important to the powers that be because they don't make the city money. Out-of-towners make the city money so that is who they cater too. Pun intended.
If that 'famous' guy who opened Florence had been able to employ professionals (and grown ups!), people would be bragging about how THEY know where to park and how to get into the place. It would be a badge of honor! For locals that is. Getting my point?
The Atlantic was opened by folks who live HERE. The list of things that makes the Atlantic successful and the Florence not is a long one but I think that reason should be at the top.
Granted, the decor at Florence left everything to be desired (even the exterior discourages approach, oh how I miss Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow!) and the prices were prohibitive but to fail so grandly, in a neighborhood that is CRAVING eateries and shopping away from downtown, you have to be doing it very, very wrong.

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Posted by glady on 06/22/2017 at 11:03 AM

Re: “Editor's Note: Lessons from The Florence’s failure

Claire's comment is so true. It took forever to find the entrance. I believe more people would have eaten there if they knew how to get in.
And once the front door was found, the parking was confusing.

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Posted by scarlett o'hara on 06/21/2017 at 11:18 PM

Re: “Editor's Note: Tony Thomas takes City Council with him to rock bottom

THE TERROR OF DISREGARDING FREE SPEECH IS SELF-
IMPLANTED TREASON !
America is now being driven into a well planned
global depression, not a period of specific
recessions. Office appointed political whores,
collectively, kneel down to clan of international
banksters, with combined cultures, and of ethnic
ancestry. This mysterious empire is not at all
absolutely interested in monetary gain. Their chief
operation is to move into select capitalistic
nations, of global influence, in spreading the gospel
of pseudo-socialism, and all isms that various people
latch onto in order to maintain a preconceived idea
of existing from the womb too the tomb. As this
method has been used to destabilize all Third Word
countries, as stepping stones into the heart and
souls of any Republic not previously sanctioned as an
instrument of their web. AMERICA IS TO BE
Regimented WITH THE LOSS OF FREE SPEECH ! Thus the
First Amendment to the Constitution must be voided.

With out a doubt, our Republican/Democratic political
machine must become divided, splintered and totally
plundered, as though an unseen hand of a supposed
Luciferian influence has full control. As before
stated, materialistic greediness is only a means to
an end. To openly, steal, rob and plunder a nation, (
AMERICA ), is simply to imply that treason is being
committed in the highest echelons of national
government.

Our Republic has been transformed into a national
(METROPOLITAN SEWER ). aiding in this inward
destruction. This is a massive flood of well-trained
revolutionaries, as trained Marxists, with the cry of
proletarians of the world unite. Marxism is the Bible
of mobocracy in our country, whether it is of
ignorance, or subtly instilled, via a national commie
machine of liberalized journalistic prostitution. The
revamping of public opinion is press orientated far
beyond comprehension.

Yes, indeed, every spiel of isms that lead to the
path of national socialism are fed to innocent
citizens of impaired vision, that usually end up with
mob intellect. And for all others of whom are aware
as to the changing tide of thought in difficult
times, are being freely fleeced of their substance by
planting the ever flippant line of thought in
difficult times, by planned inflation. Most are
innocently seduced via misinformed governmental
financial disclosure, are led astray being duped and
ignorantly misled, railroaded into every concept of
approaching socialism, by a some what national
controlled media. PRESENTLY, AMERICA IS POLITICALLY
DOOMED, SOCIALLY WAY- LAID AND MENTALLY HIJACKED.

The Southern United States is under Marxists
reconstruction no question about the Northern
hemisphere. The simple-minded are loaded down with
commie inspired news concealing liberalisms path
through the Bible belt of the United States. Working
people are hammered down with every day insignificant
trifles of news-hounding. Most of all, no child or
women are safe on the streets. Police protection, as
allied with SWAT and FEMA are more prone to protect
commercial interests alone. All school children need
more protection, and proper education to sustain them
through life. Socialism is not the answer. Hard work
and self-esteem is the very roots of individual
freedom.

Posted by Bertharina Rina on 06/21/2017 at 10:22 PM

Re: “Editor's Note: Lessons from The Florence’s failure

I have never been to a restaurant where the customers complained that the music was too low. We go out to dinner to socialize, turn down the damn music.

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Posted by John Sherry Corcoran on 06/21/2017 at 9:54 PM

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