The overflow crowd in the lobby waits in vain for Carter to exit via that route following the meeting

THE long-anticipated town hall meeting of Rep. Buddy Carter, R-Savannah, lived up to the hype in terms of crowd intensity and size of the audience, which packed the Armstrong Center auditorium to capacity well before the scheduled 3 p.m. start time this Tuesday afternoon.

The overflow crowd in the lobby of the Armstrong Center of those either too late to secure a space inside or preferring to be able to hold larger signs โ€“ prohibited in the meeting โ€“ loudly chanted โ€œThis is what democracy looks like.โ€

But answers to most actual questions were short in coming, both due to Carterโ€™s largely rote and platitude-heavy responses and the crowdโ€™s own unruliness and frequent insistence on yelling over not only Carter, but other questioners in the crowd as they attempted to be heard on the frequently malfunctioning mic and PA system.

โ€œCivil discourse does not include shouting over other questioners,โ€ scolded the moderator at one point.

The intensity level amped up immediately as the meeting began, during a brief Powerpoint introduction from Carter which included a slide titled โ€œBroken Promises of Obamacare.โ€

The crowd instantly booed the reference, yelling โ€œAffordable Care Actโ€ and โ€œACA.โ€

Indeed, almost the only applause Carter received all afternoon was when he acknowledged the crowd by saying, โ€œAll right, the Affordable Care Act,โ€ before continuing his critique of the program.

Throughout the town hall, Carter generally avoided specific responses. However, on the ACA issue he guaranteed that any Republican effort to replace the program would keep the provisions of no exclusion for preexisting conditions, and the provision for those up to age 26 to remain on their parentโ€™s plan.

โ€œFolks, there are five states in the country that have only one health plan for allโ€ offered by ACA, Carter said. โ€œThatโ€™s not choice.โ€

Voices in the crowd immediately responded, โ€œThatโ€™s your fault.โ€

Buddy Carter begins the town hall with a brief Powerpoint presentation before taking questions from the crowd
Later in the meeting, when the subject of single payer healthcare was mentioned, Carter also offered one of his few unequivocal responses of the day.

โ€œNo! NO single payer! No single payer,โ€ Carter stated flatly to an immediate chorus of booing.

Carter was not without supporters there, though they were heavily outnumbered. Most focused on quieting the crowd.

โ€œIf youโ€™ve got something to say, use a few manners,โ€ shouted one woman to other audience members. โ€œRaise your hand. Nobody can accomplish anything like this.โ€

โ€œGood lord, this is like anarchy,โ€ said another under his breath. โ€œBunch of morons.โ€

As Carter touted the Republican Congressโ€™s plans to overhaul and replace ACA, he briefly mentioned Tom Price, the former Georgia congressman tapped by Trump to be Secretary of Health and Human Services.

The mere utterance of Priceโ€™s name was enough to make the chamber erupt in sustained booing, forcing Carter to stop talking.

At many points, Carter vaguely referred to โ€œbureaucratsโ€ and blamed them for much of the nationโ€™s ills, an approach which seemed to provoke a particularly angry response which got angrier the more times he said it.

The unruly atmosphere of the event was made even more unmanageable when chanting from the lobby from the overflow crowd began bleeding into the auditorium.

The Trump/Putin question came up early, with one questioner โ€“anachronistically referring to Russia as โ€œa communist countryโ€ โ€“ asking the congressman if he would vote for an independent investigation into allegations of election interference.

โ€œAll of us are concerned about Russia,โ€ said Carter. โ€œLook, both the House and Senate Intelligence committees have said theyโ€™re going to look into whatโ€™s going on with Russia. I trust that theyโ€™re going to do that. Our job as the legislative branch is to look at the executive branch and make sure theyโ€™re doing what theyโ€™re supposed to be doing, and vice versa.โ€

Carterโ€™s pro-life platform came under the spotlight in a question about campus rape.

โ€œAre you concerned about the passage of HR 586, limiting womenโ€™s access to contraception, when they might be raped any day of the week?โ€ a woman asked.

โ€œYou bring up a problem, and it is a real problem. Thank you for bringing it up. It is a problem that needs to be dealt with. Weโ€™re familiar with it. Everyoneโ€™s familiar with it. If you have a child in college this is something youโ€™re concerned with,โ€ rambled Carter vaguely.

Until he abruptly shifted gears.

โ€œYou know Iโ€™m pro-life, and Iโ€™m not going to vote for any bill that endorses abortion,โ€ Carter suddenly said, to sustained booing — along with clapping and cheering from supporters.

Another questioner asked Carter if he personally would โ€œvolunteer at a hospital or Rape Crisis Center to see what is happening with people in need of medical care.โ€

Carter then looked to a staffer in the wings, and said to them, โ€œLetโ€™s make it happen, OK?โ€

A questioner asked what Carter thought about Trumpโ€™s apparent plans to abolish or drastically curtail the Environmental Protection Agency. The congressman said โ€œI donโ€™t think it needs to be abolished but it needs to be reined in,โ€ to loud boos.

โ€œFolks, Iโ€™m tellinโ€™ ya, bureaucrats are out of control,โ€ he implored, returning to his go-to theme.

โ€œI like regulation,โ€ responded one crowd member. โ€œRegulation keeps us safe from corporate fraud,โ€ she said to applause.

A man wearing a Trump hat and Trump T-shirt stood to ask a question, saying, โ€œThanks for putting up with all this. Iโ€™m going to ask a question thatโ€™s going to bore everyone here, about this district.โ€

He then inquired about the status of an I-95 off-ramp, with Carter visibly relieved to have an easy question.

โ€œYouโ€™re not supposed to be wearing that T-shirt in here,โ€ yelled a crowd member at the Trump supporter from across the room. She was sitting near several people wearing matching bright pink Planned Parenthood shirts.

A questioner who said he worked several years for the Homeland Security Department said Carterโ€™s support of a wall on the Mexican border was an insult to the โ€œthin blue line.โ€

Carter responded that he never said he totally supported an actual wall across the entire Mexican border, just saying โ€œwe need to control our borders.โ€

One of the most vociferous reponses to Carter came when a woman asked about new and very controversial Education Secretary Betsy DeVos.

โ€œFirst of all, as you know Cabinet appointments are confirmed by the Senate, not the House,โ€ said Carter, before making this boo-prompting appeal:

โ€œYou know, weโ€™ve got to give this lady a chance.โ€

But perhaps the most intriguing interaction came when Father Michael Kavanaugh, pastor of St. Peter the Apostle Catholic Church, addressed the congressman.

โ€œFirst, I have to say Iโ€™ve also studied the Scriptures a great deal,โ€ Fr. Kavanaugh said to audience laughter. It was a pointed jab at Carterโ€™s repeated religious references, which at one point included urging teaching the Bible in public schools.

โ€œAnd thereโ€™s no part of the Scriptures that says we must support a government we have serious disagreements with,โ€ Kavanaugh said.

The crowd stood to their feet, cheering and clapping for a prolonged period. Carter simply looked on from the stage, slowly shaking his head in amazement.

As the crowd filed out, they met a crowd almost as large chanting and waving signs, hoping to intercept a departing Carter in the lobby for further confrontation.

However, an Armstrong State Police officer, blowing his whistle from the mezzanine, said Carter “had other appointments” and had already left the building.

“Buddy’s a coward, Buddy’s a coward,” chanted the crowd.

6 replies on “Buddy Carter town hall heavy on drama and volume, but scant on specifics”

  1. Tuesday at 3PM? I wish I had two weeks notice about this, so I could have requested the time off of work to attend.

  2. How convenient that these are scheduled when people are at work, in an “At Will” state where you can be fired for no reason. How utterly convenient…

  3. Good reporting. I got there too late to get in. I filled out the info sheet Carter’s staff was apparently requesting the overflow crowd to fill out with their concerns. I saw a couple of people I knew and then met an apparent Republican gentleman from Isle of Hope. He promptly informed me that “none of these people even vote here. MoveOn org brought all these people in, that’s why they asked everyone to fill out the form to prove they’re not from here. Pretty smart on Buddy’s part don’t you think?” Oh, and “These people were all just in Bowling Green before they came here.” What is with Bowling Green? I almost asked about the massacre but instead I assured him I was from here and then looked for an exit since there was no way I was getting in. Just for grins since I had time, I walked the entire front parking lot and the only out of state plates I saw that were not SC tags had Armstrong stickers on the car. I saw 4 SC tagged cars. All the others were Georgia tags, the vast majority (95%) were Chatham, Effingham and Bryan. So, no, MoveOn wasn’t shipping people in.

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