
Meg Daly Heap is taking on controversial incumbent Larry Chisolm for the vital job of Chatham County District Attorney, the countyโs chief prosecutor of criminals.
The two candidates are actually quite familiar to each other, both having the bulk of their experience and training together under former Chatham County D.A. Spencer Lawton (who last week endorsed Heap). Soon after his election, Chisolm actually hired Heap as his chief assistant district attorney, essentially the numberโtwo job in that office, a position she quit in 2010 to go work for Judge Penny Freesemann.
The St. Vincentโs graduate, also an alumna of Georgia Southern and Mercer University law school, now works in private practice. She took a break from debate prep to speak to us last week.
Letโs cut to the chase: Do you draw a direct line between the performance of the current D.A. and the recent highโprofile spike in violent crime? Are the two related?
Meg Daly Heap: Thereโs certainly a direct line in the sense of how much turnover thereโs been in the D.A.โs office. There was a loss of 51 people out of 82 people on that staff. Thatโs over 500 years of experience!
Who weโre seeing now doing most of the violent crime are recidivists โ repeat offenders โ as in the Ashleigh Moore case. That man was a threeโtime convicted child molester. And the D.A.โs office lost evidence โ they were not prepared or ready to go to trial. There are other cases where that lack of experience and competence plays out.
The police are doing their job arresting criminals, but the D.A.โs also got to do their job.
Youโre running as a Republican and heโs running as a Democrat. Is there really an ideological difference between you, or are most of your criticisms a matter of process?
Meg Daly Heap: A combination of the two. It starts with recognizing the basic value of your employees. Larry has said the only people in his office he needs to maintain contact with are attorneys. I totally disagree. You could be best attorney in world, but if you donโt have the support staff of secretaries and advocates and people like that, to keep the victim whole and safe, you canโt do your job. I believe in hiring good competent people, giving them tools, training and support, and then getting out of their way.
One of Larryโs attorneys was held in contempt of court for not doing their job! That I thought was a shame, because that individual was someone having personal difficulties. As a leader you need to be aware of your staff. Is it a personal issue or a professional issue? You have to have your pulse on your office.
I notice youโre being diplomatic here about the multiple lawsuits against Chisolm alleging harassment and other improper workplace behavior.
Meg Daly Heap: I donโt talk too much about the lawsuits. I will say that former D.A. Spencer Lawton, who I worked under for 15 years, taught me how to manage people. He treated all employees with respect. I would have thought Larry might feel the same way, since he got the same training I did.
I can say three things about those lawsuits: One, if youโre getting sued by your employees youโre obviously not treating people like you need to treat them.
Two, taxpayers are paying for all this. The judgment against him was $270,000, taxpayers will foot that bill. Also the $32,000 in attorneyโs fees. Thereโs also the appeal that Larry promises, which taxpayers will also pay for. Oh, and thereโs still another lawsuit.So instead of building a new playground or starting a new program to keep juveniles out of trouble, weโre paying to defend personal actions against employees.
And lastly, instead of doing his job in the D.A.โs office, Larry Chisolm is sitting in federal court defending lawsuits! Heโs on employee time, on our dime. Weโre paying him a salary to sit in federal court!
I have to say Iโve been surprised how little outrage thereโs been about it.
Meg Daly Heap: Iโm astonished he even ran. I canโt believe heโs running.
Why are you running?
Meg Daly Heap: I come from a background of victim advocacy, thatโs where my passion is. If your daughterโs raped, you donโt care about the process from A to B. You want to know, โis there somebody competent to handle my case and can we bring the rapist to justice?โ
Crime crosses all boundaries. We all think โoh, itโll never happen to me,โ but it can and it does. Doesnโt matter if youโre rich or poor, black or white, man or woman.
When businesses look to relocate, they look at two things: the crime rate and education. Thereโs been an 11 percent increase in violent crime here! Thatโs serious.
Iโm a huge supporter of law enforcement, and I believe our law enforcement officers do a great job. But then the case gets to the D.A.โs office and that office fails.
For better or worse, in this country the entire justice system really is geared to always favor the defendant, isnโt it? A district attorneyโs job is really key.
Meg Daly Heap: We have the best criminal justice system in the world, and one reason is when youโre charged with a crime youโre afforded certain rights, as you should be.
But the other side people forget is the person who was victimized. The district attorney is the only voice the victim has in the entire system. Thatโs it. If they donโt give you a voice, youโre never heard.
This article appears in Oct 10-17, 2012.
